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			*What is special about the chiasmus found in Alma 36?
			*Couldn't Joseph Smith have simply made it up just like "hickory, dickory, dock"?

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			Joseph Smith does not produce the kind of speaker that people of ''his'' day would think of as eloquent or fiery or powerful. Instead, Joseph actually produces an eloquent, persuasive man in the mold of the ancient world that comes through even in translation.

			This has nothing to do with "Hickory, dickory, dock!"

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	A - 1 MY son, give ear to '''my words'''; for I swear unto you,		A - 1 MY son, give ear to '''my words'''; for I swear unto you,
	:B - that '''inasmuch as ye shall keep the commandments of God ye shall prosper''' in the land.		:B - that '''inasmuch as ye shall keep the commandments of God ye shall prosper''' in the land.
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	:It is difficult to imagine a more paradigmatic or a more effective use of chiasmus than this. Alma 36 is worthy in form to the best of any ancient chiastic writer. Two further points deserve particular attention: first, as if to remove any doubt concerning the fact that this chiastic arrangement was intended to accentuate the contrast between the agony and the joy which Alma had experienced, he makes that contrast explicit in verse 20 when he states: "My soul was filled with joy as exceeding as was my pain." Second, it says much for Alma's artistic sensitivities that he succeeds in placing the turning point of his life at the turning point of this chapter. Such effects, it would appear, do not occur without design. As natural as it might seem to use chiasmus as a literary device in contrasting opposites such as those Alma had experienced or in emphasizing the turning point of one's conversion, its usage is not at all obvious or automatic, as is evidenced by the fact that Alma did not use it when he described his conversion as a young man [in Mosiah 27]. Such a use of chiasmus is, rather, a conscious creation of an imaginative and mature artist [such as Alma was by the time this was written, just prior to his passing].{{ref~~\|welch1}}~~		:It is difficult to imagine a more paradigmatic or a more effective use of chiasmus than this. Alma 36 is worthy in form to the best of any ancient chiastic writer. Two further points deserve particular attention: first, as if to remove any doubt concerning the fact that this chiastic arrangement was intended to accentuate the contrast between the agony and the joy which Alma had experienced, he makes that contrast explicit in verse 20 when he states: "My soul was filled with joy as exceeding as was my pain." Second, it says much for Alma's artistic sensitivities that he succeeds in placing the turning point of his life at the turning point of this chapter. Such effects, it would appear, do not occur without design. As natural as it might seem to use chiasmus as a literary device in contrasting opposites such as those Alma had experienced or in emphasizing the turning point of one's conversion, its usage is not at all obvious or automatic, as is evidenced by the fact that Alma did not use it when he described his conversion as a young man [in Mosiah 27]. Such a use of chiasmus is, rather, a conscious creation of an imaginative and mature artist [such as Alma was by the time this was written, just prior to his passing]. <ref>John W. Welch, ''Chiasmus In Antiquity'' (Provo, Utah: FARMS, Research Press, 1981), 207.</ref>

	In other words, one does not just get up from being unable to talk or move for a few days and ‘spontaneously’ break into chiasmus, any more than one can ad-lib a Shakespearean sonnet. Chiasmus—especially one as rich and detailed as Alma 36—is a work of conscious creation. It is also an impressive performance, since while it flawlessly follows the chiasmus model, nothing feels forced or artificial. The mirror parts aren’t just slavish repetition either; most have differences or elaborations in either the first or second ‘part’ to expand Alma’s meaning.		In other words, one does not just get up from being unable to talk or move for a few days and ‘spontaneously’ break into chiasmus, any more than one can ad-lib a Shakespearean sonnet. Chiasmus—especially one as rich and detailed as Alma 36—is a work of conscious creation. It is also an impressive performance, since while it flawlessly follows the chiasmus model, nothing feels forced or artificial. The mirror parts aren’t just slavish repetition either; most have differences or elaborations in either the first or second ‘part’ to expand Alma’s meaning.
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	But, later on Joseph delivers extensive quotations from Alma’s own sermons and writings. Amazingly, ''Alma'' delivers!		But, later on Joseph delivers extensive quotations from Alma’s own sermons and writings. Amazingly, ''Alma'' delivers!

	Joseph Smith does not produce the kind of speaker that people of ''his'' day would think of as eloquent or firey or powerful. Instead, Joseph actually produces an eloquent, persuasive man in the mold of the ancient world that comes through even in translation.		== ==
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	:::::::::::::N - 17 And it came to pass that as I was thus racked with torment, while '''I was harrowed up by the memory of my many sins''',		:::::::::::::N - 17 And it came to pass that as I was thus racked with torment, while '''I was harrowed up by the memory of my many sins''',

	::::::::::::::O behold, '''I remembered also''' to have heard my father prophesy unto the people concerning the coming of '''one Jesus Christ, a Son of God''',		::::::::::::::O - behold, '''I remembered also''' to have heard my father prophesy unto the people concerning the coming of '''one Jesus Christ, a Son of God''',
	:::::::::::::::[center] to atone for the sins of the world.		:::::::::::::::[center] - to atone for the sins of the world.
	::::::::::::::O'18 Now, as '''my mind caught hold upon this thought''', I cried within my heart: '''O Jesus, thou Son of God''', have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death.		::::::::::::::O' - 18 Now, as '''my mind caught hold upon this thought''', I cried within my heart: '''O Jesus, thou Son of God''', have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death.

	::::::::::::N'19 And now, behold, when I thought this, '''I could remember my pains no more; yea, I was harrowed up by the memory of my sins no more'''.		::::::::::::N' - 19 And now, behold, when I thought this, '''I could remember my pains no more; yea, I was harrowed up by the memory of my sins no more'''.

	:::::::::::M' - 20 And oh, what joy, and what marvelous light I did behold; yea, my soul was filled with joy as exceeding as was my pain! 21 Yea, I say unto you, my son, that there could be nothing so exquisite and so bitter as were my pains. Yea, and again I say unto you, my son, that on the other hand, there can be nothing so '''exquisite and sweet as was my joy. '''		:::::::::::M' - 20 And oh, what joy, and what marvelous light I did behold; yea, my soul was filled with joy as exceeding as was my pain! 21 Yea, I say unto you, my son, that there could be nothing so exquisite and so bitter as were my pains. Yea, and again I say unto you, my son, that on the other hand, there can be nothing so '''exquisite and sweet as was my joy. '''