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A FAIR Analysis of:
Criticism of Mormonism/Books
A work by author: Richard Abanes
 Claims made in "Chapter 1: Vagabond Visionaries"

Claims made in "Introduction: A Thread of Prophecy"

Page Claim Response Author's sources

xv, 477n2 (HB)
ix, 475n2 (PB)

 "[S]ome of the least reliable reports on Mormon history, especially with regard to its earliest years, are those that have been produced by the LDS church..."
  • Boyd K. Packer, interview with D. Michael Quinn, 1976. Quoted in Smith, 105, endnote #22. (PB)
  • Boyd K. Packer, "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater Than the Intellect," Brigham Young University Studies 21 no. [3] (Summer 1981), 264-265. off-site (HB,PB)

xv, 477n5 (HB)
ix, 475n5 (PB)

 LDS leaders "attempt to control depictions of the Mormon past."
  • Allen Roberts, Private Eye Weekly, October 20, 1993, 12. Quoted in Jerald Tanner and Sandra Tanner, "Legacy: A Distorted View of Mormon History," Salt Lake City Messenger (#88), May 1995, 4 online at http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no88.htm.

xv-xvi, 477n6 (HB)

 "Mormon Scholars too often write history that, if not blatantly, at least tacitly defends the faith."
  • John E. Hallwas and Roger D. Launius, Cultures in Conflict: A Documentary History of the Mormon War in Illinois (Logan, UT: Utah State University Press, 1995), 2-3.
  • The balance of endnote is a laundry list of additional sources critical of the way history is treated by faithful LDS. It is deleted here, as it is not directly related to the use of the quote in question.

xvii (HB)

 The "White Horse" prophecy predicts the "transformation of the U.S. government into a Mormon-ruled theocracy.
  • John J. Roberts, Journal of John J. Roberts http://www.helpingmormons.org/white_horse.htm http://www.2eternity.com/mormon/whitehorse.html
  • Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 6:152.
  • James Burgess, James Burgess Notebook, LDSCA, vol. 1 cited in Andrew F. Ehat and Lyndon W. Cook, The Words of Joseph Smith: The Contemporary Accounts of the Nauvoo Discourses of the Prophet Joseph, p. 279.
  • Sandra Tanner, "Joseph Smith's 'White Horse' Prophecy," http://wtlm.org/onlineresources/whitehorseprophecy.htm

xviii, 475n5 (HB)

 The "White Horse" prophecy "continues to be a dominant element of the faith espoused by Joseph Smith's followers" because they believe that they will be "officers and administrators" during Christ's millennial reign.
  • Fred Esplin, "Mormon journalist and University of Utah spokesperson", "The Saints Go Marching On," Utah Holliday, June 1981, 34.

xix (HB)

 Various Church leaders have reiterated the "White Horse" prophecy.

xx, 479n10 (HB)
xiv, 477n10 (PB)
  • Mormonism existed as a "radical, immoral, and un-American band of religious zealots" (HB)
  • Paperback version changes this to Mormonism "was perceived as a radical, immoral, and un-American band of religious zealots" (PB)
  • Fred Esplin, "Mormon journalist and University of Utah spokesperson", "The Saints Go Marching On," Utah Holliday, June 1981, 33.

xx, 479n15 (HB)
xiv, 477n15 (PB)

 The Church will rebuild the government and restore economic prosperity in preparation for Jesus Christ setting up a theocracy in Missouri.
  • Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1958; second edition, 1966), 855. During a December 23, 1866 sermon, Brigham Young declared that at Christ's second coming, he would first appear in "the land of America" (Brigham Young, December 23, 1866, Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, 279.)
  • Note: The hardback has the page number incorrectly specified as page 249, which was corrected to page 279 in the paperback.

xx, 479n17 (HB)

 "Mormons thereafter will reign with Christ, and every American citizen, along with the rest of the world, will be forced to recognize Mormonism as the one true religion."

xxi (HB)

 As for other governments and religions, according to Joseph Smith, they "must eventually be destroyed from the earth."
  • History of the Church 5:212

xxiv (HB)

 The Church refuses to divulge "routine (financial) information that other religions are happy to provide over the phone."
  • This is simply a repeat of the Ostling's claim.

xxiv (HB)
xviii (PB)

 Mormons believe that they are "morally, ethically, and spiritually superior to non-Mormons."

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